Comments July through October 2003
18 Sept 2003
Mr. Avram, my name is Leo, 20 years old, I'm a reformed Christian.Live
in Indonesia, Jakarta. But for the last year I have been a Torah
Observer. I consider myself as a Christian who learn to walk with
Yeshua and understand Scriptures through Hebrew point of view. And
also ask for the Holy Spirit in Yeshua to guide me.
I'm in a study class of Hebraic roots for the last two weeks, but
before that I already learned much from library and browsing through
A few days ago I read the articles bout messianic symbol of
Jerusalem, I was so excited.. and i want to make a ring out of it for
me & my friend, it has the Star of david that being form by menorah
stand and fish tail from ichtus..(I considered it is like a message
that gentiles and Hebrews are one in the Messiah Kingdom). But then I
learn bout a society called Freemason, they are using star of David,
then I also realized that many of New Age and Satanic worshippers
uses the Star of David. Is kabbala kosher...?? Can you explained it
to me.. ?
I need to know cause some of my friend said that there are 2 Kabbala,
one is the real from Torah, and the other are false-pseudo Kabbala.
Me myself don't know anything about kabbala... But I do want to know
where it came from... Cause so much Messianic Judaism movements or
believers uses this symbol.. below is the copy of the article about
Messianic Seal of Jerusalem..
Please help me akhi Avram, .. I rally want to walk in the truth.. :-)
Your lil' brother in Yeshua, Leo
Shalom: May the Peace and Joy of Yeshua our Messiah surround you today.
Glad that you are walking in Torah and following Yeshua by His Spirit
and His Word (the Bible).
As you already have seen, many pagans use he so called Star of David.
You can find out more on it, how pagan it is, by reading this article
that I wrote:
The Star of David
As for the Fish symbol, that also is very pagan. Please read another
article of mine:
Jesus the Fish god?
The only thing in the so called Messianic Seal that is not pagan is
the Menorah (Lampstand).
I think the things that have been found with these symbols on them
are ancient (perhaps 200-300 A.D.), but that they are ancient things
that use pagan symbols...just like today, you'll find many Jews and
Christians wearing the so called Star of David, thinking them to be
something that David or King Solomon used. But this is not true.
The ancient pottery found tells us that many false things were used
in Christian worship early on and this is in accord with Church
history. Much changed from the days of the Apostles to 200 A.D. Have
you ever read the classic on paganism in the Church? It's Alexander
Hislop's, The Two Babylons. It's worth reading Leo.
Kabbalah is nothing more the Babylonian mysticism with Jewish clothes
on. It is certainly forbidden by Torah, even though many Jews
practice it. It is sorcery. For an understanding of why I say this,
please read another article of mine:
Even within Judaism it is recognized as witchcraft, yet it pervades
Judaism. Nothing new under the sun as King Solomon once wrote (Eccl.
10 Oct 2003
I just discovered your article on the beard and really appreciate the
hard work and study you have put into it. Also bringing into it the
Torah and New Covenant writers to show contrast and balance.
I am a Gentile believer in Yeshua and a Counseling/ Psychology major
in a large Christian University. I, too, have to deal with all of the
cultural pagan practices people are doing even in Yeshua and the
embracing of the world within the church. I found this article very
to be liberating. For it is written " Come out from among them and
be ye separate says the LORD and I will receive you". Since I have
been in school, the LORD has been teaching me about keeping the Ten
Commandments and honoring the Sabbath and keeping it holy. Which you
probably know that the church in a lot of sections does not advocate
any longer by reason of and imbalanced teaching on grace.
Concerning the article, I agree completely. The HOLY SPIRIT led me
along these lines 13 years ago in following YESHUA completely. It was
one of the greatest joys of my life to learn about and be apart the
ancient heritage of Israel. I remember seeing Orthodox Jews walking on
the Sabbath every saturday and longing and praying for the same
opportunity to honor and worship Yeshua in this way as well as other
ways. Also concerning the portrayals of Yeshua in film, (as many good
ones as there are out there) I have always commented that Yeshua's
beard is to short and his hair is too long. Which I think doesn't
give accurate portrayal of the Jewishness of Yeshua. It is sad that
the Christian world has done so much to separate Yeshua from being
Jewish and the non-believing Jewish world separating themselves from
their promised heritage in Yeshua.
Thank you so much for your article and for being willing to be used
as a, " A voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the
paths of the LORD".
Thank you for this courageous article. Recently, I was motivated to
make a banner for a women's group (Aglow International) to which I
belong. One of the primary symbols I was going to use was the Star
As I began to research the symbol, I realized that it should not be
used in relation to God. Words such as charm, good luck, etc.;
caused warning bells in my mind. Consequently, I will not use this
As a Christian, the cross has always been an emotional issue. Being
raised Catholic the cross is the most commonly used symbol of
Christianity for the purpose of adornment.
Recently, two-to-three years ago, The Sprit of God has helped me to
realize that the cross was absolutely the most humiliating symbol
possible to our Lord and Savior, Jesus the Christ. How could I use
this ultimate humiliation of my Lord as a piece of adornment? I
suppose this is thought to be strange to others, however; my
conscience will not allow me to use these symbols either as adornment
or for spiritual purposes.
Thank you for the confirmation and inspiration.
May you continue to always walk after the Holy Spirit of GOD.